Investigations of a sadhu who has not eaten for sixty years give food for thought to scientists and spiritualists. Exclusive interview between Dr. Manu gupta and Prahalad Jani.
Ambaji, Gujarat: I am sitting in front of Prahlad Bhai Jani, a sadhu who claims that he has not eaten or drunk anything for past 60 years. “IMPOSSIBLE” If this is your reaction then check out the report by a team of reputed doctors and scientists from DIPAS (Defence Institute of Physiology And Allied Sciences). After observing the sadhu in strict controlled environment for 15 days, they declared: “For 15 days, Prahlad Jani did not eat, drink, and pass urine or stool.” The medical community calls him a miracle. I look at him. For his 83 years of age, he is agile and alert, lean and quick on his feet. There are no wrinkles on the face, but a thin bluish ring encircles the cornea of the eye representing cholesterol deposition due to aging. He has grey hair and a medium-size beard. About five feet tall, wearing red robes of a renunciant, he sits with a straight back.We introduce ourselves. He folds his hands and bows his head. “Can we take your pictures,” I ask. He nods.
We begin snapping. He sits unfazed, looking away from us. When we are done, we again come nearer and with the help of a translator conduct the interview. Because of prolonged vows of silence often lasting for years, we were told that his speech is slurred and he seldom speaks for long. But as he lay on the swing in his acrama, he spoke candidly and at length with us.
Some excerpts from the interview:
Manu gupta: By seeing your devotion and power, many people are getting faith in spirituality. He smiles and raises his hands towards the heaven. What is your message for the public?
Prahlad Jani (PJ): Nothing. I just give them blessings. Whatever their karma, they will get benefit accordingly.
Manu gupta: What was the purpose behind doing this investigation?
Prahalad Jani: We want to tell the world that man can live without food and water. Man can live without water even in drought. There is nothing new in this. However you train your body it will adjust. Previously, sages and rishes could eradicate sickness and live. Everything is there in the body, but we search outside. There is nothing outside; whatever is there is in the body, with us. Scientists want to search such a method that the soldiers can live during wars without food and water. But science deals with outside.
Manu gupta: Vedic scriptures mention that one should eat food, so how can you live without food and water?
Prahalad Jani: In whichever way we train the body, it adjusts. For nearly 80 years, I have been living in the forest.
Manu gupta: What is your age?
Prahalad jani: 83 years.
Manu gupta: Are you happy after doing this austerity?
Prahalad jani: I have now achieved siddhi. I have to show this to the world that even stone can speak, even stone melts. Man can do anything. Man has power in body but he searches outside. Whether I live for 11 years or 5000 years, I have no desire in life. I don’t want to possess anything. I had a desire to build an acrama – it is now fulfilled. In Allahabad Kumbha- and Nasik Kumbha-mela different saints come. So many saints attempt to get this siddhi but they die without getting it. Only I achieved this siddhi.
Manu gupta: What inspired you?
Prahalad Jani: Divine power. Dev-shakti se. I got the mercy of Goddess Amba in my childhood.
Manu gupta: How can common masses get to do this?
Prahalad jani: Only if they search on their own.
Manu gupta: Is it possible for a common person?
Prahalad jani: They will take many years. It is very rare. Till we become expert, it?s very rare to achieve it. Otherwise, we will be neither here nor there. Na ghar ke na ghat ke. People with less knowledge may advance little, but due to lack of complete knowledge, they eventually back out.
Manu gupta: People are running away from spiritual life. What do you say?
Prahalad jani: I don’t involve with people of this world. Apni masti mein mast rahta hoon. I am happy within. Till I achieve my aim I will have no interaction with this world. My life is different from the world.
Manu gupta: How does your body function?
Prahalad jani: Amirasa (Amruta or nectar). It runs on amirasa. When Pandavas, went to Himalay’s, they survived on amirasa Sun rises and sets at its pace. If it did not do this, there will be chaos in this world. Time reigns. So many saints come for Kumbha-mela, but where they go back after the mela? How many know about it?
After the interview, he requests us to take some milk and fruit. He gets up, walks swiftly, climbs over a stool, takes out some sugar-candy prasada from a tin and offers it to us. For a person in international media limelight, he is humble and down to earth.We come out of the acrama. On our right is a small white temple on a bighill. It is Gabbar, a holy place associated with Mother Durga. In a cave of this hill, Prahlad Jani spent years in meditation and austerity. The temperature is around 480C. I wonder, “Does this sadhu really live without food and water?”For the answer, we travel 200 km to Ahmedabad to meet the doctor who tested this sadhu.Science studies the Sadhu.We meet Dr. Sudhir Shah, an eminent neurophysician based in Ahmedabad, who studied Prahlad Jani twice in seven years. Since the matter is under defence authorities, Dr. Shah is unable to disclose information about the investigations and tests. But he has great interest in spirituality and agrees to discuss the interface between science and religion with us.
Some excerpts from the talk:
Manu gupta: How did you test the claims of Prahlad Jani ?
Dr. Sudhir Shah : In 2003, I studied Prahlad Bhai for ten days. This was to verify if the claims were true. They were. In 2010, we did the tests to see how this can be true. For this study, the DIPAS decided the protocol. Prahlad Bhai was kept in a closed room with a glass door. The toilet was sealed. There was 24-hr monitoring with CCTV and a person lived in his quarters for observation. He was given only 100 ml water for washing his mouth and it was measured afterwards. He did not bathe for the first seven days. After seven days, he was given water for bathing and it was measured before and after the bath. He did not pass urine. He would form around 100 ml of urine, but later absorb it within the bladder.The investigation protocols were decided by DIPAS. They are an independent body who came in to picture after I requested the former President Dr. Abdul Kalam to consider the vast potential of this case.
Manu gupta: What can be the reason behind this phenomenon?
Dr. Sudhir Shah : I have formed a hypothesis, which includes a) chronic adaptation, b)deriving energy from cosmic sources ) recycling energy within the body, and d) genetical or structural changes. For more details, check my website www.sudhirneuro.org Manu guta: Okay. We see that the Vedic literature and tradition is filled with stories of s?dhus possessing mystic powers. For example, in anoanga-yoga there is a kriya called khecara-mudra, in which the practitioner elongates his tongue, rolls it back, and then touches it to the back of the uvula hanging from the palate above. Once the yoga does it, he can access nectar, which descends from the head.
Dr. Sudhir Shah: Yes. Also by raising the kueoalin (a subtle energy located in the spine) to the top of the head, one can access the nectar. This nectar has the power to provide all nutrition. There are some contemporary yogis who have this power and also there are two cases of non-eating sadhus mentioned in The Autobiography of a Yogi.
Manu gupta: Yes, they are postulated to access the solar energy through the medulla oblongata, a part of the lower brain, just above the spinal cord. Also yogis like Baba Ramdev mention that there are subtle nutrients in the atmosphere, which can give nourishment to the body.
Dr. Sudhir Shah (laughs): May be this is the reason why some people are unable to put off weight, even when they hardly eat anything.
Manu gupta: Yes, it makes sense. But does science believes in all these spiritual theories?
Dr. Sudhir Shah: Science fails here. I am bewildered. This case debunks all our theories about the human body as we know of it. If the kidneys do not form urine for four days, a person needs dialysis. This man did not urinate for 15 days our controlled environment! Despite fasting, he is in perfect condition. His pulse is 45. Only highly trained athletes have such low heartbeats.
Although Dr. Sudhir envisions finding a physical process behind this strange phenomenon and using it for helping armed forces, astronauts, victims of natural disasters, etc.; his real motivation is spiritual. “These yogis are the wealth of our nation, he says. ” They are the pride of our culture. By scientifically verifying and presenting their amazing powers we are glorifying our vast heritage…Please keep in touch, he says and requests us to share further spiritual insights on this phenomenon.The Spiritual science Modern science sees the human body as a fine machine, where life is a product of a special combination of matter. Like any machine, the body needs fuel in the form of food, and after absorbing the useful components from food, the waste is discarded as stool and urine. Although man can survive without food for a few days, survival without water is possible only for 4-5 days.
Therefore, this case makes modern medical science completely clueless.But when we examine it from the Vedic paradigm, many possibilities open up.The Vedic literature describes that there are yogis who possess the powers to manipulate laws operating in material world. These mystic powers are called siddhis, and are broadly of eight types:Aeima: becoming small like a particle Laghima: becoming lighter than a soft feather Prapti: getting anything from everywhere Mahima: becoming heavier than the heaviest Icitva: creating something wonderful or annihilating anything at will Vacitva: controlling all material elements Prakamya: possessing such power as will never be frustrated in any desire Kamavasyita: assuming any shape or form one may even whimsically desire The Vedic literature is filled with supernatural events and feats which,according to modern scientific paradigm, were considered miraculous and therefore impossible and imaginary. Due to innocent faith in the feats of modern science and stubborn pride, which assumes that science is the only means of providing information about the cosmos and its phenomenon,unfortunately educated persons were generally unwilling to accept the Vedicsystem of knowledge. But this one sadhu clearly shows that there are higher laws and phenomenon.